August 27, 2019 by Andrew Minalto - 26 Comments

WHEN to Register a Trademark for your Amazon UK FBA Business?!

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Welcome back!

Let’s talk about trademarks. If you’re selling on Amazon UK, or if you hope to start selling in the near future and are currently in the planning stage, you need to understand WHY getting a trademark for your brand is so important and WHEN is the best time to do it.

First of all, why have trademarks become so important for Amazon FBA sellers? The reason is very simple: you can only get into Amazon’s Brand Registry when you have a REGISTERED trademark.

The Brand Registry opens up additional seller tools, such as:

  • Dedicated 24/7 support on IP infringement cases
  • A+ content
  • Amazon stores
  • Sponsored Brand ads
  • Amazon Early Reviewer program
  • Brand analytics
  • And more!

It’s obvious that sellers who are part of Amazon’s Brand Registry have a MASSIVE advantage over sellers who are not. Take the A+ content as an example. It allows you to create visually rich product descriptions by putting images and other visuals directly into your product description.

On mobile devices, these listings look even better because A+ content is shown by default directly on the listing page, whereas you have to click an additional button to access “normal” descriptions (which often look too plain and boring for buyers to read).

Not many sellers are utilizing Amazon stores correctly, but if you do, your brand on Amazon will have a dedicated shop that looks professional. You can even upload additional content, including VIDEOS! You can also create content-rich landing pages, which are perfect for advertising outside of Amazon’s PPC system. You don’t even need to pay for a landing page builder because Amazon provides it to all store owners for FREE!

Sponsored Brand ads are another way to get ahead in the PPC game. I have found great success by advertising product groups this way, and Amazon allows you to send this traffic to your store pages or product listing pages. Again, if you put some time and effort into creating high-converting landing pages, you will get very good results from this advertising feature.

Very recently, Amazon UK introduced their Early Reviewer program. For a £60 fee, Amazon will help you get your first five reviews much faster by reaching out to customers on your behalf and encouraging them to leave a review. This is a very powerful option as it’s getting harder and harder to get buyers to leave reviews. This highly beneficial feature is only available to Amazon Brand Registry members.

There’s more I could talk about, but you get the point. If you’re serious about your Amazon FBA business, you need to get into the Brand Registry, no question about it. And for that, you will need a registered trademark.

Now, people often ask me: when is the right time to register a trademark?

Let’s find out!

BEST Time to Register
your Trademark!

If the trademark registration process only took a few days, we wouldn’t even be discussing it. But the reality is, it can take up to three months to register a trademark in the UK. Sounds awfully long, right? It’s not. Especially when you consider that the same process in the US takes a minimum of nine months and costs a lot more, as I covered in my US trademark registration saga article here.

However, three months is still a long time. Even though your application is submitted to the trademark journal within two to three weeks of your application, there’s still a two-month opposition period, during which your trademark registration can be opposed. Remember, Amazon does not accept trademarks that are still in this opposition period.

A trademark needs to be REGISTERED to qualify for Amazon’s Brand Registry. So, you have to accept that it will take three months from beginning to end, and that is only if everything goes to plan and no one opposes your registration. For the purpose of this article, let’s assume that everything goes smoothly, as this post is more about the timing of the process than getting the trademark itself registered.

So, in an ideal world, you come up with your brand name, register a domain name, create your logo design, submit your trademark application, wait three months for it to be approved and then proceed with sourcing goods.

This is the way it should be done because you will know for certain that your trademark is registered and there won’t be any more changes.

The downside, obviously, is that you have to wait three months, which is a long time!!!

Can you speed up this process in any way? Are there any shortcuts? Can you start selling on Amazon while waiting for trademark registration to come through?

The RISKY Way

If you’re willing to take some risk, you can simply proceed with your product sourcing and even start selling the product while your trademark is still in the two-month opposition stage.

The risk here is that if someone opposes your trademark and you have to drop the trademark registration, you end up with a “broken” business!

You’ll be stuck with a name you can’t use and products manufactured with a brand name/logo/packaging that you can’t sell. A TOTAL FAILURE!

The KEY here is to correctly assess your chances of successful registration BEFORE you do it. By that, I mean you need to do thorough and extensive research online. Use Google and use the IPO’s trademark search tool to see if there are any similar trademarks already registered. If there are, then obviously your chances of getting opposed are much higher.

If your brand name is totally unique (for example, a made-up name that is 100% new), your chances of opposition are very, very low. Even if someone does oppose your trademark, chances are you’ll have a strong case against them and they won’t be able to stop your registration process.

Doing these online searches before you settle on the brand name is a CRUCIAL step. Ideally, of course, you would contact a trademark solicitor and have them do a professional consultation and proper searches, but that will cost you a lot of money. It could be hundreds or even thousands of pounds, depending on the solicitor you choose.

Yes, there are trademark search gigs on Fiverr.com for £10 to £30, but they’re most likely NOT carried out by a qualified trademark solicitor. They’re just regular people who know a bit more about trademarks than the average person. They probably just do a quick Google search and IPO database search, but how well can they evaluate the possibility of similar trademark holders opposing you? Hard to say….

If you’re willing to pay some money for that extra peace of mind, I would recommend you go with the Right Start service offered directly by the IPO.

It costs just £30 more than the normal registration, but an IPO solicitor will evaluate your application and provide advice on whether or not it’s safe to proceed with the registration. These people have seen thousands of trademarks and have the experience to spot problem registrations, so it is really good value for money.

So, yes, you can make progress with your business while waiting out those three months. You just have to accept that there is a risk that things can go wrong.

Also, you have probably noticed that logos often have two symbols next to them:

® symbol
™ symbol

What do they mean?

The first one, ®, is used when your trademark is officially registered. This would be after the two-month opposition period has successfully passed and your trademark is registered.

The ™ symbol means that your trademark has been published in the journal but hasn’t been registered yet.

So, if you’re proceeding with your business without waiting for the registered trademark to come through, you should use the ™ symbol next to your logo. This would also apply to any Amazon visuals, as well as the product itself and/or packaging.

Only when the trademark is registered should you start using the ® symbol!

The biggest problem people have is with the order of using these symbols. Which logo should you put on the product and packaging? The ® or ™? Well, you definitely can’t use ® yet, as your trademark has not officially been registered. You can use ™ or you can opt not to use any symbol at all—that’s fine, too!

My advice is to create both sets of graphics when you work with your designer. Ask for logo files that have the ® symbol as well as separate files that have the ™ symbol. The same goes for packaging designs. Get two or even three versions, even if you decide to not use any symbols at all in the beginning. For the designer, it takes just a few minutes to create these additional files, so it shouldn’t cost you anything extra.

Conclusion

And that’s about it! I have covered two scenarios of trademark registration for Amazon FBA sellers. Both can be used, but you have to understand their differences and consequences.

Personally, I have always started my businesses without waiting for the trademark to officially go through, but then again, I’m more experienced with the research process, have had a few opposition cases under my belt, etc. If you’re someone who is new to all of this, maybe you don’t want to take that extra risk. If you are willing to take the risk, at least pay that extra £30 to get the Right Start service from the IPO.

There will also be some of you who prefer to take things slowly. For you, three months might be the time it takes to research suppliers, order samples, do modifications, etc., until you settle on the final supplier and product. If that’s your situation, great! You won’t have to risk anything and you’ll be able to properly brand your first order with an officially registered trademark.

Another scenario could be that you have researched suppliers, settled on the final product, etc., but there are still two weeks left before your opposition period ends. In a case like this, I would strongly recommend you wait it out and get the verdict. Two weeks is nothing. It won’t change anything, and you can move ahead 100% sure that your trademark is sorted out.

There is an alternative, of course. You can choose to forget about trademarks altogether, don’t join Amazon’s Brand Registry and simply sell your product in the standard way without all the additional tools. Is it recommended? No. But the majority of sellers on Amazon still do this and it works out just fine for many of them.

In the long term, though, you should register your trademark anyway. As the years go by, more and more sellers on Amazon will become Brand Registered and your listings will inevitably become less and less competitive. You also won’t have access to the valuable selling tools I listed earlier, and I’m sure there will be more added to these in the future!

Even if you have been selling on Amazon for five years already, you can still register your trademark and get access to all of these benefits. It’s never too late. Go to the IPO website and put in your application! It takes less than twenty minutes and you don’t need any legal help to fill it out—it’s a very straightforward process!

I hope this helps somehow, especially if you’re new to the whole Amazon FBA game. If you need any clarifications or want to ask a question, feel free to leave your comment below the post. I will personally answer all queries within 24 hours, Mon-Fri.


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  1. Hi Andrew,

    Thank you for the content you put up here for everyone and for following up our questions. Learned a lot just by reading Q&A.
    One scenario that bunkers me and I couldn’t find is:
    If I want to register my store name and have a few derivates from that name do I have to register all of them
    (Example: store name is “extra” let’s say and I have 3 products Like “extra outdoor”, “extra kitchen” and “extra desk” – Do i have to register all 3 names or i can get only “extra” and have the extensions attached?
    Any thoughts on that please; advices, do and don’t; suggestions.
    Thank you,
    Souza.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Souza,

      Thanks for your comment.

      That’s a good question indeed! 🙂 To get into Brand Registry, you can probably just register the main logo as a trademark, have a product with that logo on and you will be fine. But if your logo on the product contains that extra word, Amazon most likely won’t accept it. Basically, for each unique trademark you own, you can open a separate Brand Registry account – Amazon allows that, have a separate store for it etc. But yes, then you will also need to get all 3 variations registered as trademarks.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  2. Hey Andrew,

    You mention applying for a TM for a brand early in the process but what if you discover the product(s) that you are selling under that brand don’t turn out to be good products in terms of sales/profitability and now you want to abandon it.
    Is it not better to wait until you establish proof of concept before spending money on TM registration?

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi AJ,

      Yes, it can happen, but then again – so what? You will simply be out of £170 (if you can’t use that trademark for any other item).

      The advantages of getting into Brand Registry early on far outweigh the risk of losing that £170, at least in my opinion. And it’s especially helpful when you’re just starting out – to have that A+ content for maximum conversion rates, to have access to the VINE program to get quickly get in first 30 reviews and so on.

      So yes, if you ask me – it’s totally worth taking that risk and applying for the trademark as soon as possible.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  3. Marius Voicu

    Hello, Andrew!

    First of all thank you for this blogpost.

    I’m in that pre-launch phase at step number ”logo design and trademark register”.

    In the past few days I was browsing and learning as much as possible about this trademark registration process. So I have the next question, because I’m in big dilemma: should I go for the both type of registration, word(the name of the brand) and the logo?

    I mean, my logo might suffer upgrades in the future or it might be used in different colors on the package design or on the product for better contrasts and if it will suffer these upgrades then the registration will not protect it anymore. Only the version submitted will.

    So in my opinion all I have to do is go just for the brand name(word registration) wich is enough to get enrolled in Amazon’s Brand Registry and to secure my brand’s name.

    I just need your advice if this is a good option.

    Thank you in advance.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Marius,

      Thanks for your comment.

      It all depends on what you need the trademark for – if it’s just for Brand Registry, go with the design/logo mark as chances of opposition will be lower with that. On the other hand, if you want maximum protection for your brand name, then go with the text/word mark and be ready for a higher chance of opposition.

      Another way to do this is – get the design mark registered first and then go for the word mark, just so you have that extra protection in long term.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

    2. Marius Voicu

      Hello again, Andrew!

      I thought this “problem” will help others in need.

      On 16.01.2020 I’ve applied for trademark register. All good by now. My opposition period should’ve ended on 24.03.2020. And as you already know, if there’s no opposition by the end of this period, they’ll register my trademark within 2 weeks and send me the certificate by post to my registered business address.

      BUT, and this is a big but! I’ve tried to get in touch with them and I’ve got no answer, and after that I’ve just read on their website the following:

      “””IPO interrupted days
      The Intellectual Property Office is declaring 24 March 2020 and subsequent days until further notice to be interrupted days.

      This power is set out in rule 110 of the Patents Rules 2007, rule 75 of the Trade Marks Rules 2008, and rule 40 of the Designs Rules 2006. The notice of interruption will be published in our Journals and displayed at our sites.

      The declaration of interrupted days means that any deadlines for:

      patents
      supplementary protection certificates
      trade marks,
      designs, and
      applications for these rights
      which fall on an interrupted day will be extended to the next non-interrupted day.”””

      So this rises a big dilemma: Should I keep going with my packaging design and after that place the order with my supplier(these are the next steps in my agenda), as there was no opposition, or wait another 2 weeks to see what’s gonna happen?

      Thank you so much, again, for your response.

      Stay safe!

      Marius Voicu

      1. Andrew Minalto

        Hi Marius,

        Thanks for sharing this, good to know.

        Yes, the dilemma is there for you – and you have to decide how big of the risk you want to take really, how confident you’re in your trademark/brand name?

        If you ask me, the logic says that if no one opposed you within those 2 first months, it’s fairly safe to say that no one will do that. But of course, there’s always that 1% chance…

        Andrew

  4. Hello and thank you for this great article !

    If i register a trademark at the IPO website, is it possible to use it in US Amazon’s Brand Registry ?
    Thank you in advance

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Antony,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Yes, you can use the UK trademark for Amazon.com, as I explain in this post:

      https://andrewminalto.com/us-trademark-amazon-brand-registry/

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  5. Mahera Malik

    Dear Andrew,

    So I don’t need to pay a company to carry out my trademark application as I am unsure how to do this. But I have many people who recommend to use a solicitor. Sorry just confused! Also, what software did you use to carry out your research.

    Mahera

    1. Andrew Minalto

      You simply complete the short registration process/form on the IPO website, that’s it.

      All they ask is for your details, logo design and some other information – there’s nothing complicated.

      Andrew

  6. Mahera Malik

    Hi Andrew, can you please recommend a good company who can carry out the trade mark application and also is it only recommend to get trade mark only for UK. I am focussing in UK first. Also you said to pay £30 for an IPO – how do I do that ?
    Kind regards
    Mahera

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Mahera,

      Thanks for your comment.

      You don’t need to pay anyone for this – you can easily submit your trademark application online, via the IPO website:

      https://www.gov.uk/how-to-register-a-trade-mark

      Yes, it’s ok to just get the trademark in the UK, especially if that’s where you plan on selling.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  7. Hi Andrew,

    I aim to sell on Amazon FBA with a couple of unique LED grow products we have had manufactured. However we might expand to other products later.

    To get an Amazon Brand would you apply for a word trademark that is more generic but you don’t own the .com or just stick with your actual .com logo/name only?

    (not our real company but similar examples)
    FastGrowLED.com – domain we own
    FastGrow.com – domain we don’t (generic)

    Regards
    James

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi James,

      Thanks for your comment.

      To properly use Amazon’s Brand Registry and all it’s features, you will want to apply with the BRAND/TRADEMARK you have registered for those specific products.

      Amazon don’t care much about domain names you own or don’t own – all they need is a registered trademark and branded products/packaging.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  8. Hi Andrew,

    I’m working on my trademark name and design as I want to join Brand Registry.

    As I’m keen to get started selling would I need to get a GS1 Barcode to get me through the first few months?

    Kind regards

    Tam

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Tam,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Yes, you will need a EAN code to create your product listings on Amazon. OR you can try asking for EAN exemption. More details here:

      https://sellercentral.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/help.html?itemID=G200426310&language=en_GB

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  9. Hey Andrew,

    How are you ?
    Please see below :::

    Recently – through discussions w/Brand-Registry team (USA – Amazon.com) – an interesting answer was provided to us; and we’d appreciate your thoughts :::

    Trademark offices, (World-Wide), typically approach the granting of a registered Trademark – on the condition that the ‘mark’ is used in commerce, directly pertaining to the ‘class’ of registration

    So if an applicant successfully registers a trademark under class 28 – then they would typically be ‘protected’ & ‘permitted’ to sell goods related to this class 28 (e.g. tennis rackets)

    Brand-Registry, however, do not analyze the type of class

    They are only interested in the trademark registered Word-Mark &/or Design-Mark

    This situation, essentially allows the Brand-Registered Seller to sell in multiple Amazon categories – even, with only one ‘class’ of registered Trademark – a very low-cost ‘hack’ to maximize product selection within Amazon !

    Your thoughts & insights are most welcomed

    Charlie. B

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Charlie,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Yes, that’s a well-known fact, nothing new there! 🙂

      Amazon does not require registered goods class to match what you sell – they just need a design or word-mark, that’s it.

      It has been that way from day one.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  10. Simon Hartley

    Hi Andrew,

    I’m after some advise re: trademarks…

    I started the ‘risky’ way. Not by choice but because I was new to business and unaware of the importance of trademarks.

    I have checked my brand name on the trademark checker website and it turns out there is already a trademark for that name registered in my category (nearly every category for that matter). Let’s say for example my brand name is ‘Rogue’ and I see that name is already registered in my category. Am I screwed?
    If for example, my brand was a kitchenware business, would I be able to trademark ‘Rogue Kitchenware’ instead of just ‘Rogue’?

    This is a theoretical example but fits my situation. Do you have any advice as I’m struggling to find definitive information anywhere and I’m wary of applying and getting rejected / losing money / drawing attention to the fact I’m using a registered brand name.

    If the more specific ‘long-tail’ route of ‘Rogue kitchenware’ is a viable route to go down, does that mean all of my branding on the products would have to say that and I wouldn’t be able to brand them just ‘rogue’?
    As you can probably tell, I’m rather confused so any insight or advice would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Simon,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Most likely you will struggle with registering that name, yes. Chances of opposition are very high and without help from a trademark attorney (expensive), you won’t be able to win that battle, if at all.

      The biggest issue with such “vague” and generic names is that they’re not DISTINCTIVE enough! A trademark should be distinctive and unique. Yes, ‘Rogue Kitchenware’ will have a much better chance of surviving the registration process, BUT there’s still a risk that ‘Rogue’ trademark owner who does business in the Kitchenware category/goods class, will oppose you.

      To be honest, in situations like these, it’s all about how lucky you are – sometimes super weird and generic trademarks goe through without opposition and some time, unique names get opposed by trademarks that are not even close. So the only way to know is to proceed with the registration and see how it goes.

      Yes, you will have to use FULL trademarked name or logo on the products and packaging, especially if you want to get into Brand Registry.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

      1. Simon Hartley

        Hi Andrew, thanks for your reply. I really appreciate the insight.

        Would it be possible instead to trademark the ‘vague’ brand name as an image? I.e. if the logo is the distinctive part of my brand and not necessarily the word itself, would it be wise to trademark the logo instead?

        Is this an option or am I confused?
        Can I use brand registry under an image trademark?
        Is it possible/likely that the company with the trademarked word will still have a good case to appeal my image application?

        Thanks again,
        Simon

        1. Andrew Minalto

          Hi Simon,

          Amazon won’t accept that. They require that the brand name is shown in the logo as TEXT.

          So no, that’s not an option.

          Andrew

  11. The IPO direct route seems straightforward, but remember that to get approved as a brand Amazon send a verification code to the trademark agent, you need this. Looking on the seller boards this is difficult as the IPO does not seem to facilitate this. There may be workarounds, but on balance might be better paying extra in the knowledge that getting the code should be straightforward

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Dave,

      Thanks for your comment.

      I have never had any issues with this – a few years ago I remember that they asked for such code and it was sent to the representative email (which was me) – so it was not a problem. More recently I have joined Brand Registry in France for example and they did not ask for this at all.

      Anyways, if your address/contact details are shown on the trademark registration record, you will be able to get such verification if asked for by Amazon.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

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