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VAT For Amazon Sellers WARNING – Pan-European Fulfilment TRAP!

March 22, 2017 by Andrew Minalto - 133 Comments
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I’ve written about VAT a number of times on this blog, and with good reason – it’s a topic that causes a lot of confusion for online sellers and if you get it wrong it can really destroy your business. In my opinion, registering for VAT when you don’t need to is the biggest tax mistake an eBay or Amazon seller can make!

But all that has been covered before on my blog, numerous times in fact, so what’s the point of today’s article?

Well today’s post is really a warning about Amazon’s Pan-European fulfilment service – which is a HUGE tax trap under new EU law.

As you all know, when you sell on Amazon you get access to all 5 European marketplaces:

  • Amazon UK
  • Amazon Germany
  • Amazon France
  • Amazon Italy
  • Amazon Spain

And you can sell to all of these marketplaces with your one seller subscription, which is great! In fact you don’t even need to create multiple listings – you simply create your listings on your home marketplace (Amazon.co.uk for example) and if they’re eligible, they’ll “automatically be re-created in the remaining four marketplaces via Amazon’s ‘build international listings tool’.”

But Amazon have gone one step further and recently a very exciting addition to the Fulfiled by Amazon fulfilment service was introduced, called Pan-European FBA.

The idea behind it is very simple – it allows you to offer your products to all 5 European marketplaces but rather than your stock being stored and shipped from one fulfilment center (as is normally the case) – Amazon will distribute them across ALL 5 countries.

This of course provides a number of important advantages to us as sellers:

It’s FREE!

Amazon don’t charge you to distribute your stock and you don’t even have to do it yourself. You simple send your FBA items to your local Amazon fulfilment center and Amazon then spreads it around all 5 countries (plus two more) based on expected demand.

Your products become Prime-eligible!

Having your stock stored in the home country makes it eligible for Amazon’s sales boosting Prime delivery service in all 5 European marketplaces, meaning you’ll see a big boost in international sales.

Quicker delivery!

It obviously goes without saying that shipping domestically is going to be faster than having all orders sent out internationally from one Amazon fulfilment center. Faster deliveries means happier customers and more repeat orders.

Less FEES!

Yep, you read that right! Even with all the added benefits, Amazon’s Pan-European fulfilment actually saves you money! How? Well because you only pay the local fulfilment fee for that particular marketplace when one of your items is sold and you save the usual cross border fee charged when you sell via Amazon’s European Fulfilment Network (EFN).

Let’s take a quick look so you can see what difference this makes:

So as you can see, you save between 13-38% in Amazon fulfilment fees, depending on which country you sell to, which is a significant amount and nothing to be sniffed at.

I’m guessing you’re now wondering what the problem with Pan-European FBA is? After all, it’s free, it will increase your sales, and it actually saves you money in fees…!

But there is a huge downside to it that, judging by the emails and questions I receive, a lot of people are seemingly unaware of:

It means you have to become VAT registered in every country that your stock is stored in!

This is due to the EU law introduced last year to try and tackle overseas sellers who store stock in Europe, allowing them to undercut local sellers WITHOUT having to pay the same taxes.

Following this new rule, you now have to register for VAT as soon as you have inventory stored in a country. So if you have stock stored in Amazon’s fulfilment center in Germany, you need to register for VAT in Germany. If you have stock stored in Amazon’s fulfilment center in Italy, you need to register for VAT in Italy, etc. etc.

What this basically means is that you’ll have to register for VAT in every single country that Amazon stores your stock in, which also includes Poland and the Czech Republic (as well as the 4 European marketplaces).

And no – it doesn’t matter how much you’re selling. This is different to local VAT registration, where you only have to register once you reach the sales threshold (this is currently £83,000 in the UK but it’s generally increased every year).

As soon as you have stock stored in a European country, you need to register for VAT in that country (even if your sales are £0).

In comparison, when you store and ship products from a sole Amazon fulfilment center, we’ll use the UK for this example, then you only need to register for VAT in the European countries that you sell to once you reach their distance selling thresholds. Now these differ from country to country but generally it’s €35,000 (roughly £30,000) with the exception of a few countries (Germany, Netherlands, Luxembourg) where it’s €100,000 (roughly £85,000).

Just so there’s no confusion – using Amazon’s Pan-European fulfilment service means registering for VAT in 6 different countries. You’ll have to charge the correct VAT rates to the correct customers, keep records and file VAT tax returns for all of them as well.

People find it too much cost and work to do this for one country, never mind 6! I shudder just thinking of all that paperwork – and the cost is going to be huge as well as you’ll most likely need to hire a local accountant to take care of all the country specific details.

Realising how this is going to put off the majority of sellers, Amazon have teamed up with KPMG (one of the “big four” auditors with a revenue of $25 billion a year) to offer a special, discounted rate VAT service for Amazon marketplace sellers.

KPMG are offering Amazon sellers VAT registrations and filings in up to 7 EU countries at special bundle and discounted rates.

The cost is £700 per country per year OR £3600 per year for all 6 countries (which works out at £600 per country per year):

Now this may seem like a lot of money, and well… IT IS! But that’s because you’re registering and filing VAT returns in 6 different countries – so it’s actually not an unreasonable fee to charge. And to me it’s a perfect measuring point – unless you’re happy to pay £3600 for the privilege, then you should simply continue selling to Europe from Amazon’s UK fulfilment center.

After all, how much do you need to be selling to make that worthwhile? We discussed earlier how you save 13-38% in Amazon fees by using this service, so let’s call that 25%. That means to save the £3600 yearly fee you need to be paying £15,000 in Amazon seller fees per year (and that’s just talking about your fees for sales to European countries).

I know that’s a very simplified way of looking at this and it ignores the other benefits, but I just wanted to illustrate how this should only be considered if you’ve got the sales numbers to back it up.

All in all, I can’t see how this is beneficial at all and I hope you see why I called this a VAT trap – really nightmare is a more accurate term.

If you’ve fallen for the Amazon sales talk and signed up for this Pan-European fulfilment, then I’d love to hear from you in the comments section below. Has it made a huge difference to your sales and how are you handling all the tax requirements?

Until next time!

All the best,
Andrew


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  1. Multi Channel Fulfilment

    Thanks, really interesting post.

  2. Multi Channel Fulfilment

    Thank you for providing such information. This is very generous of you providing such vital information which is very informative.

  3. Hi Andrew,

    Question as I’m new to this and am looking to start selling to on Amazon EU as a non-resident. I’ve read through a lot of the comment and what people asked, but still somewhat confused.

    If I sign up for PAN EU, and use Vatglobal/Avalara, will Vatglobal/Avalara offer services to help me register for VAT for all 6 different countries at once?

    Am I just paying them an annual fee to help me manage the VAT taxes?

    Is there anything else I would need to do on my end if Vatglobal/Avalara is doing all the VAT tax work?

    Thanks in advanced!

  4. Thank you for your time in putting this article together.

    I am selling books on Amazon, using mostly FBA and a small portion as self fulfilled.

    In Germany last year (from Jan-Dec) I sold 3650 orders totaling 65k euros in sales.
    In France I sold 1429 orders totalaling 27k euros in sales.
    Italy and Spain similar at 1000 orders at 19k euros in sales.

    Books in the UK are zero rated for VAT and I don’t charge VAT on the books in Europe as I fall short of their threshold.

    I am just wondering if it is worth registering for Pan European as I would have to take out (or charge extra) 4-7% in VAT on my european sales plus the KPMG VAT fees.

    I am just wondering if it is worth me registering for PAN-EU as it seems the amount I will save will be about identical to my extra costs. I would appreciate your feedback on this.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Simon,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Are you aware that the PAN-EU program no longer will be the same next year?

      There will be two separate inventory pools – the UK and the EU.

      Andrew

  5. Tamsin Johnson

    Hi,
    I’m registered for PAN EU and have been since 2017. When I signed up to PAN EU I was told if it wasn’t working out I could simply deregister from each country and continue with just the UK account.
    I recently enquired with Amazon support how to start the de-registration process but they’ve told me as I have a European Unified Account it will close the UK account as well as the European accounts – joy. Amazon’s suggestion was to deactivate the EU countries but leave the UK as active, but this means I still have to do vat returns each month for the EU countries (via Avalara who are hopeless by the way). And I’m still not sure if Amazon will charge me something even if the account is inactive…
    Can you shed any light please? Perhaps there’s an alternative to this, as my experience with Amazon is you get a different answer from each and every sales support person!
    Thank you.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Tamsin,

      Thanks for your comment.

      No, Amazon is right this time – the account is same/unified, so you don’t want to close it down. First thing you need to do is sell off all the inventory you have in EU marketplaces. Then deactivate those countries and listings in your account. Then, de-register from VAT using Avalara or any other VAT service provider, in each of the EU countries you have registrations active now.

      Once you do all this, you can continue selling in the UK, using your existing account.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  6. Hi Andrew,

    Fantastic article, very informative.

    We’ve just received contact from Amazon in regards to a promotion for using their VAT services so that we can start reusing the Pan EU fulfilment network (We were using this until we realised we needed to register for VAT in each territory).

    My question would be this. We currently sell the following into each country –
    France – £5000 Per month
    Germany – £1500 per month
    Italy – £1500 per month
    Spain – £1500 per month

    These numbers are continually increasing and we’ve experienced fairly quick growth in the last few months in these areas. I expect the numbers to increase a good amount in Germany in 2020. Now we’re aware we’d have to register for VAT in France due to exceeding the long distance threshold. However ultimately is it worth us signing up using the Amazon promotion for all 6 countries? I’m aware of the much reduced fulfilment fees and I have no doubt we’d benefit greatly from these. We are currently operating at around a 40/50% margin in the UK. We are paying around £1800 in Amazon fees in France per month, so from your article I would suggest it’s going to be well worth us doing?

    My question for you would be, what’s the catch if there is one?!

    Many thanks,

    Connor

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Connor,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Yes, absolutely! At those sales levels you will benefit greatly from using the PAN-EU program as first of all – your conversion rates and sales will improve just because the stock will be local and customers will get Prime benefits. Plus you will save in FBA fees too. In your situation it’s a no-brainer really.

      The only potential problem lies within the VAT returns – Amazon’s partner in this is Avalara and you can find very mixed reviews about them online, mostly bad ones… I personally use a different company, VATGlobal.com and they have been very good and punctual so far. But Amazon’s promotion won’t cover a deal with VAtGlobal.com I was lucky to get in for free as last year Amazon run VAT promotion for VATGlobal.com too.

      So I recommend you do some research online and see reviews on Amazon’s service.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  7. Hi Andrew, this is a very good article!

    I’m currently using EFN in order to ship all of my goods from Amazon UK to France, Germany, Spain, and Italy.

    In view of Brexit, I’m thinking to transfer part of my inventory currently stocked into Amazon FBA UK to an Amazon FBA Spain warehouse, and from there serve the above mentioned Amazon countries.

    In other words, in case of Brexit, I’d like to use Amazon FBA UK for domestic shipments only and Amazon FBA Spain to serve the EU. All of my current listings and ASINs shoud remain the the same.

    I’m about to get a spanish VAT to be tax compliant.

    If possible, dould you please shed a light on the topics below? I’m very confused.

    1. what is the procedure to transfer part of my stock being held into the Amazon FBA UK warehouses to Amazon FBA UK Spain (or other EU) warehouses?

    2. By enebling the MCI option, can I allow Amazon Spain (or another Amazon EU warehouse) to serve the EU and keep my listings and ASINs unchanged?

    Thanks!

    Francis

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Francis,

      Thanks for your comment.

      1) You will have to send stock to Spain on your own, Amazon won’t do it for you.

      2) Yes, you can do that.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  8. CATHERINE SLEEP

    Hi Andrew,

    Thank you for the simplified version of VAT in the EU Countries. It is such a mine field, you tend to freeze before you even start especially when dealing with Amazon !

    My question is though our sales in the EU warrant us being VAT registered in all of the countries even though some are only used to store our stock. Our problem is we are unable to complete the VAT returns in these Countries ourselves, we just are not that clever. We therefore have to choose a company to handle all of this on our behalf. We keep hearing negative and positive points about so many companies we do not know who we should go with. Do you or anyone have a fairly reliable company or companies that you could suggest ? We are very aware that no one is 100% efficient but as it seems they have to access our seller account we want to be sure we use a company that are reasonably efficient, sensibly priced and trustworthy.

    Not looking to hold anyone to account here just wnt names based on everyone’s experiences.

    Kind regards,

    Catherine Sleep

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Catherine,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Yes, I totally agree – it’s impossible to do even the registrations in all those countries on your own, not talking about returns.

      I personally use VAT Global and so far so good – very happy with the service and communication:

      https://www.vatglobal.com

      They’re not exactly cheap though… I did get the 1st year FREE with the Amazon promotion they run at the end of last year.

      Hope this helps!

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  9. Great post, just what I was looking for. I am still trying to find the best way forward for my Amazon business I am doing about £2k turnover per month on Amazon UK, about £600/m on .de about £200/m on .fr and very little in .it and .es. I am not UK VAT registered as below threshold. I currently use PAN European FBA, so I understand that I should register for VAT in all the relevant countries to continue using it. That alone would probably stop me dead but Amazon are offering me a VAT services promotion to register in all those countries and get first years filings for free – but I am concerned what I am letting myself in for. What sales would then be taxable? Everything is under the threshold values for VAT in those countries but do I understand correctly that VAT would be payable in Germany on any order fulfilled from an Amazon German Warehouse, even if below the 100K threshold? If I do register will it be easy to deregister in future?

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi There,

      Thanks for your comment.

      You haven’t said what your profits are, but most likely, for that size of a business (turnover), you will be in huge loss after registering for VAT in those countries. First of all, you will have to either increase the prices OR take a loss on profits, as when you become VAT registered, you have to start charging VAT on sales. Secondly, you will have to pay thousands per year for VAT returns (after the free trial).

      As you’re already selling using PAN-EU, the sales won’t magically increase once you get VAT registered. Most likely they will even decrease if you increase your prices to offset VAT costs. So you either add more items to your product portfolio or increase sales for existing SKUs to get sales to the next level, which will make the whole VAT thing worthwhile.

      Lastly, IF you’re already using PAN-EU, you actually have no choice but to register for VAT in those European countries and do back-dated VAT returns on past sales. Otherwise, you’re basically breaking the law and not paying proper taxes. This also means that when you register, you will be hit with a pretty nasty VAt bill…

      For all the reasons I have listed now, I usually don’t recommend newbies to go with the PAN-EU program, until they hit a decent turnover and profits, that can support this whole tax nightmare.

      Hope this helps!

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  10. Hi Andrew,

    I’m sure I read on one of your blog posts that you recommended the PAN EU Program as long as Amazon are offering the first year free as a promotion?

    I was contacted by Amazon and they offered me this promotion – Which I have just recently signed up for and about to pay my first tax bill in the EU countries.

    So far the only downside I am seeing is more frequent tax payments which means less cash flow.

    Other than that there shouldn’t be much downside as the fulfilment fees are less I should have an increased margin (in theory anyway!).

    Will see how it goes!

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Zeb,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Yes, of course – PAN EU program opens doors to so many extra customers and for many businesses, it’s a great way to increase sales.

      The paperwork (with VAT registrations) and frequent tax payments, with more complicated accounting, is something you have to deal with, yes. But as long as all these extra expenses are covered by additional profits and more, it’s totally worth it.

      This article/post is more about brand new Amazon sellers who are just starting out, for them, the whole VAT thing will be too complicated and expensive.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  11. Craig Sherratt

    Hi Andrew,

    Thanks for the post and information. I personally hate the illegal tax, VAT!
    That said, we have to comply if we reach the threshold.
    We are selling our first product in the UK, but we have strong family connection in Germany and want to sell this product in that market.
    I’m aware of the 3 methods to sell across the channel, but I’m struggling to find the size and weight limits for a product, which will influence the costs etc.
    Our product is large, weighing in at 21.5 kg, with a carton size of 102 x 97 x 66 cm.
    Are we restricted in any of the 3 methods?

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Craig,

      You should contact Amazon support and ask them about this – I don’t know if there are any restrictions on oversized items.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

    2. Just to note, this is a new business and we are not VAT registered in the UK or any of the other countries.

  12. Paul Stacey

    Hi Andrew, great article, just what we have been looking for. We signed up for Pan-European FBA a couple of months ago but feel it would be a good idea to bow out before things get too complicated. However, cannot see how to do this. Do you have any info on how this can be achieved, would be really grateful.

    Thanks
    Paul

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Paul,

      Have you registered for VAT numbers yet? Who is doing this for you, who does the accounting and VAT registrations?

      Let me know.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  13. Hello Great Post, I have a Question, we do sell and stored from Amazon FBA UK, with FBA Exports, we already have our Vat. and we have been selling to Spain, Italy, Uk, France, and Germany (Germany recently change the legislation, and they say that we have to register as well even if we don’t store in Germany), so we are paying VAT for Uk Sales My question is

    with our setup do we have to pay any VAT for our sales in Spain, Italy, France?

    thank you

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Daniel,

      Thanks for your comment.

      No, you don’t have to. You will only need to register for VAT and pay tax in those other countries when your sales to each country exceeds the Distance Selling threshold. More on this you will find in this blog post:

      https://andrewminalto.com/vat-for-amazon-sellers/

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  14. Hello Andrew,

    You write in this post that Amazon has the vat service for 700 EUR per country per year.
    In the comments down you link to this page where it is offered for 400 EUR. For registering and filling.
    What’s the difference between the two?

    1. Joining the pan European was the worst mistake of my life. I see it as a scam. It is good for Amazon but it is a nightmare for sellers. Since joining the pan European I have become poorer. I have become indebted. Last 6 weeks Germany alone sent me a bill of nearly 20000 Euro. I cannot see this amount entering my account.
      Amazon deceived me when they invited me to join pretending it was a privilege.
      I have deregistered from the pan European but Germany continues to pursue me with bills. I have no clue when this is going to end. I might have to simply get items stored in Germany and Poland destroyed. My amazon business as it is now is dead.
      And to prove it is a scam simply deregistering does not solve the problem. Amazon wants you to be there forever.

      1. Su-Lin

        I’m so sorry for what happened to you Kev. I am going through the same nightmare now though admittedly less drastic as I haven’t actually started selling. Can I please ask you, how did you deregister from the European Unified Account? I can’t seem to find any info on this. Thank you!

      2. Andrew Minalto

        Hi Kev,

        20 000 EUR bill for what exactly???

        Andrew

    2. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Brad,

      It’s because Amazon changed the program over time, run special promotion on pricing.

      Andrew

  15. Hello Andrew,

    Great post, thank you. I wondered if you could help with working out the stock transfer side of things? We are registered and submit VAT returns in seven EU countries and then have our UK VAT return for sales made where the UK is the point of sale and goods are dispatched from the UK warehouse. That said, all of our stock goes straight from our UK supplier to the UK Amazon warehouse; Amazon then move our stock when they want to across their own network of EU warehouses – should we be recording this transfer as it’s not necessarily a direct sale? We can’t raise an invoice to Amazon because it’s not a sale, it’s usually just going to sit somewhere in Poland until Amazon decide to use that stock to fulfill an order from one of the Amazon platforms. Any clarity you can offer would be great!

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Hannah,

      You will have to consult an accountant about this.

      I know that we do record these transfers as they’re needed for VAT reports, but I don’t know the technical side of the process as I’m personally not involved in that.

      Andrew

  16. Hi Andrew,

    Great info! I am selling on Amazon DE (FBA) and I am registered for VAT in DE. I noticed that when a customer from another EU country buys my product, Amazon calculates a different VAT percentage. For Germany it is 19% en for customers in the Netherlands they use the 21%. I am a little confused; do I pay the taxes for that sale in the Netherlands in Germany? And if yes, do i pay this 21% to the German Tax Authorities or the 19% rate?

    Thanks,
    Suzanne

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Suzanne,

      Thanks for your comment.

      It depends on who the customer is (VAT payer or no) as well as whatever they buy directly from you on Amazon OR Amazon buys the item from you and then sells it on (you will see these transactions in the monthly Global listings invoice).

      Also – make sure that you have enabled VAT calculation services in your account and you have provided valid VAT number there so that Amazon knows your VAT status.

      With all things being equal, if someone buys from you and is NOT VAT registered – whatever it is from Germany or Netherlands, the VAT rate should stay the same – 19% one that is German rate and that’s where you pay the VAT. In your example, something else is going on and that’s why there’s that difference.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  17. james davies

    Hi Andrew, great thread!
    This is probably going to sound silly, but if I am selling from the UK using FBA, do I not have to pay taxes in the EU countries or is it just VAT once you hit the threshold? Lowest I believe is France at 35000euros, like here in the UK you have to sign up for tax if you earn i think £2000 or more working, do I not have to do this for every EU country? (exclude Germany) Will it just reflect in my end of year tax return for UK?

    Thanks in advance
    James

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi James,

      Thanks for stopping by.

      No, you won’t have to pay income/corporate taxes in those EU countries. All you pay is VAT (when you reach distance selling threshold OR if you send goods to store in those countries using the Pan-EU program).

      Thanks,
      Andrew

      1. james davies

        Thats great. Thankyou very much for your help, i will be sure to follow your website more often,

        thanks again

      2. Andrew Minalto

        You’re welcome James!

  18. Shauna O'Brien

    Hi Andrew,

    This is really useful, thank you! I wonder if you can help with my query.
    We are based in the UK and not VAT registered as we are under threshold. We use Amazon FBA to supply UK only at the moment. My question is – if we copy our listings to Amazon.fr or Amazon.de (or the other European marketplaces) but don’t select pan-european FBA – would this mean Amazon would supply these European customers from the UK warehouse? Would we then need to register for VAT in those countries?

    Thanks so much for any help!

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Shauna,

      Thanks for your comment.

      To sell in Germany, you basically have to register for VAT – at least that’s how Amazon interprets the new German law right now, even if you don’t send physical goods to Germany.

      As for France and other EU countries – yes, you can sell to them without being VAT registered and fulfil orders from the UK using the European Fulfilment Network (EFN) program:

      https://services.amazon.co.uk/services/fulfilment-by-amazon/unified-account-and-efn.html

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  19. Shubham Jain

    Hello,
    I am selling on Amazon Germany Marketplace from past 3 years. I am sending my products from India to Germany. I am not doing Amazon FBA in Germany, still I have received the notice from Amazon to get the German VAT id.
    I would like to know in the above case, do I need to register for German VAT certificate?
    Will Germany tax authority ask me to pay previous 3 years taxes also?

    Thanks and regards.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Shubham,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Yes, as far as I know, this means you will need to register for VAT number in Germany. At least that’s how it looks right now from the info I can gather.

      As for previous 3 years – IF your sales to Germany were LESS than 100 000 EUR per year, then no – you won’t have to pay anything for previous years as you were under the threshold of VAT registration in Germany.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  20. Harry Vernau

    Hi Andrew,

    Thank you for the great article, I am really sorry if this has already been asked but I am interested in opening and selling from Amazon in USA.

    I live in the UK so how exactly does the tax work?

    I saw you write earlier that I would need to register for sales tax in USA

    Do I also need to register with HMRC for VAT and tax?

    Thanks,

    Harry

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Harry,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Yes, you need to register in the US for sales tax IF you plan on using FBA.

      Not sure on the UK VAT thing – I think you will have to do that, yes, as you’re exporting goods outside the EU but you need to consult an accountant to clarify this.

      Andrew

  21. Hello Andrew,

    I am planning to start selling on Amazon. I have company registered in France and I am not registered for VAT until I will reach €35.000. I would like to be focused only on French and Czech market and shipping from France by FBA. In this case is it possible to apply just for 2 markets and not European Pan and register for VAT once I will reach the limit on each country limits, do I understand it right ? All this VAT thing is very confusing and seems like a headache to be register for PAN and deal about VAT with each country.

    Have a great day and thanks for your article.

    Kind Regards,
    LUCIE

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Lucie,

      Yes, you can do that! You can use selected Amazon marketplaces and send stock there and only register for VAT in those selected countries.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  22. Hi Andrew,

    I’m not EU resident and are currently selling in Amazon.es. I am already VAT registered there and want to expand to Germany. At the moment Amazon charges me about 11 when I sell a product to Germany for 17 and is fulfillled from Spain.

    I’m considering paneuropean program to save on this high charges. I am prepared to register for vat in Germany, is there anything that I’m not considering here?

    Is there a better move for me at this point?

    Cheers

    John

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi John,

      Thanks for your comment.

      If you only want to sell/expand to Germany, maybe just sell on Germany directly? I mean, create a listing there, send stock to Germany and deal directly ONLY with Amazon.de

      This way you still have to register for VAT in Germany BUT won’t have to register in France, Italy and UK.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  23. Very Nice Article, thanks ! I have a question:

    Do you know if the amazon VAT service will automatically send the correct VAT data to the appropriate fiscal administration or do I need to enter data provided by amazon manually in every juridiction every month? In this second case, the language barrier may be too difficult.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Sven,

      Amazon won’t send any data to local tax offices, no.

      This is something you do on your own.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  24. HI Andrew
    This might be a thicko question but here goes…….
    I am NOT VAT registered and have been selling on Amazon FBA now for coming up to 12 months. I only have sales of £7k for the year (it’s a hobby) but I am really confused about VAT. I receive my money every 2 weeks but do I have to pay VAT to the government on the these sales I have completed. I import items from China and pay full import and VAT on their arrival.

    Pete

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Pete,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Where are you located? In the UK?

      If so, you don’t have to register for VAT and don’t have to worry about it.

      Andrew

  25. Mudit Goel

    Hi My Name is Mudit & I am From India.. I have sent an Inventory to FBA in UK 5 days Back which is now closed But the inventory is in Reserve since last 2 Days.

    When I see the listing like a Customer it shows me “In stock on August 30, 2018.” but I can still Order.
    As I have already Recieved 1 which is in Pending State.

    1. Now do I Need Mandatory VAT Registration in UK For this..?

    2. Also I Recieved a Mail From AMAZON UK That You “MAY BE” required to register for VAT, but they haven’t Mailed Me About you have to mandatory do registration.

    3. Also I Have Read Somewhere if I Dont get registration done they will temporarily suspend my account, until I upload valid VAT Doc.

    4. And What if I Dont want all these hassle, can I just remove my inventory and sell as a normal seller fulfilled even though I have recieved 1 order in FBA Already(Pending State).

    Please Reply Need an Urgent Understanding. thanks for Your Wonderful Article.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Mudit,

      1) Yes, as you’re storing goods in the UK, you have to register for VAT in the UK.

      2) You have to register for VAT, as goods are stored in the UK.

      3) Yes, correct.

      4) Yes, you can do that. But shipping from India won’t work that well for you….

      Andrew

      1. Mudit Goel

        Hi Thanks For Your So Quick Reply,
        I Just had a talk with UK Seller Support, and they just told me coz u have sent an inventory to UK you will be required VAT Number in any case if u remove the inventory as well, actually she was not able to reply properly coz she was putting my call on hold again & again to get the answer,
        Please Make Me clear if I Remove the Inventory from the UK after completing Pending Orders in the FBA, would I be able to be clear from all these VAT Issues..
        Also I cannot Remove my inventory from FBA till 26th as she said(UK Customer Support) that they are shifting there FBA center due to which it will not be available for Removal for next 10 days or so..
        Also I am Afraid till then I will clear my inventory in sales only coz I have sent a very little inventory for a test like around 34 Items out of which 3 are already sold..
        What would be the consequences please in every situation.

  26. Sir I am based in India and I do not use FBA, I ship my orders myself to buyers directly from India, if I ship directly from India to the buyer in UK on the orders received on Amazon.uk then do I need to get a UK VAT number. In this case will I be able to complete my seller registration and start selling on Amazon.uk without VAT number.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Rahul,

      No, in this case you don’t need VAT number when you’re just starting out, as you’re NOT storing goods in the UK.

      You will only need to register for VAT in the UK when your sales to the UK reach distance selling threshold.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  27. ‘This is due to the EU law introduced last year to try and tackle overseas sellers who store stock in Europe, allowing them to undercut local sellers WITHOUT having to pay the same taxes.’

    Do you have any source for this EU law? Did some searching but cant find it, thanks!

    1. Andrew Minalto

      I can’t recall the exact name for it, sorry.

      Andrew

  28. Hi Andrew,

    How will we know- to which stock locations within the Pan European Programme Amazon is sending our products, so we can do the correct filing for VAT. My understanding we send deliver to AMAZON UK stock locaction and they distribute within the 7 countries.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Thomas,

      I have not used PEP myself yet but as I understand you can get this data from the inventory reports (just like now you can see in which UK warehouses and how many units of stock you have).

      But maybe there are more advanced tools available when you join the program.

      Andrew

  29. Svetoslava Chaneva

    Hi Andrew
    Thanks a lot for your article.

    l have a question which is not completely related to this topic but I’m not sure where else to ask and it looks like you might be able to help out. My friend wants to start a business with a company based in Bulgaria selling goods on the Amazon UK platform (I don’t think they have considered selling elsewhere in Europe but they might be interested in this Pan European offer as well ). Now Amazon have told them they need to register for paying VAT in the UK but they won’t be making enough money to pass the threshold of 85 000. They are registered as a limited company in Bulgaria but still won’t be paying VAT there either. From what I understand they shouldn’t have to pay VAT here unless they are meeting the treshold?! What is the procedure in this case? Would it be worth it to do it this way at all? Many thanks in advance

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Yes, they do have to register for VAT in the UK from DAY ONE, if they will use FBA in the UK for their business.

      Please see this post for more details:

      https://andrewminalto.com/vat-for-amazon-sellers/

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  30. Hi Andrew

    Our business are looking into signing up with KPMG for our Pan EU FBA. We are a limited company with an existing VAT Number, and was just wondering which package offered by KPMG would be the most suitable for us. The package of registration within 6 countries seems to make sense as we are already VAT Registered within the UK, however this mentions its for EU Based sellers and wasn’t sure how our status would change after we leave the EU. In this case do you think it might be better to select registration for 7 countries for ‘non-EU Based Sellers’?

    I hope you can help

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Tim,

      Thanks for your comment.

      With questions like these you really should contact KPMG and get answers from them.

      Sorry, I haven’t used their services so can’t give any feedback or further advice on these services.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  31. I am a US based company selling Books – only books (small publisher) in the UK/EU on Amazon’s FBA. We have our hardback books printed in UK and stored in FBA Amazon warehouses for fulfillment to UK & EU customers. We also import from the US our paperback books, store them at FBA Amazon warehouses in UK and EU to be shipped to customers. 50% of these books we have stored at FBA Amazon are books we give as gifts to our customers, for subscribing to our financial services. FBA Amazon acts as our dropship type fulfilment center – gets our books to the customers faster and is cheaper then shipping it to the customer from the US.
    My questions are:
    #1 Do we have to register for VAT? I read somewhere that books were zero rate??
    #2 Do we have to pay VAT on books we have made in the UK?
    #3 Do we pay VAT only on the books we import and store in UK?
    #4 What would our VAT be based on if books we send from UK warehouses to a to UK customers are free? Would they base the VAT on the value of printing these books?

    Thanks in advance, just trying to sort out this VAT tax, its not too straight forward.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Lynn,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Yes, printed books in the UK are ZERO VAT rated. But it doesn’t mean you don’t have to register for VAT – as far as I know, you still have to register for VAT and do VAT returns etc., you just don’t charge any actual VAT on your sales and apply 0% VAT rate.

      And you do need to register for VAT in all other EU countries your books are stored in PLUS in those other countries it could be that books are NOT ZERO VAT rated, so you will have to charge normal VAT on those sales.

      All in all your situation is specific/complex and you should seek professional accountant’s help to help you sort this out in a way that is most beneficial to your company.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  32. Hi Andrew

    If you could help, I’m slightly confused regarding vat thresholds in eu states.

    So if a UK VAT registered company sells directly to consumers within the e.u from the UK, and if sales in each e.u state are under their relevant thresholds, would you charge VAT on your product to those e.u customers ? Even if your UK sales are are exceeding the £83,000 threshold and you are paying (and charging) VAT in and for UK sales.

    Thanks in advance I know you get barraged with questions.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Nabeel,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Yes, in that case you would charge VAT (UK VAT) on sales to those EU customers.

      You wouldn’t charge VAT in 2 situations:

      1) When you sell/export outside the EU.
      2) When you sell to a VAT registered person/company in the EU and they have provided you with a valid VAT number.

      Hope this helps!

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  33. Hi Andrew,

    This is a really helpful discussion concerning VAT. My question relates to the VAT thresholds for each EU country. In the UK, the £83k+ threshold is based on total overall income whether that comes from any other country into the UK. But in the other EU states, are you saying that you don’t need to register for VAT until sales from each of those countries reach each respective threshold?
    Thank you

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Mark,

      I think I will be doing a detailed post on VAT in next 2-3 weeks on my blog as so many people are still confused about this.

      So please stay tuned for that – I can’t really explain it all in a comment reply here.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  34. Hello Andrew,

    thank you for great article. We start selling a year ago and I singed in for PAN-EU and of course I was not aware of this VAT trap. However, our turnover is around 300k€ on German Amazon, which means we pay around 75k on Amazon fees. After reading what you are mentioned, it looks we may saved good money on Amazon Fees and therefore PAN-Eu is good for us in terms of fees, what do you think?

    I’m currently trying to deal with the VAT registration since we did not have them in all 7 EU only in Czech Republic and Germany. And it looks like a nightmare also financially. One Tax consultant specializing for Amazon asked me for 18K for the VAT registration in all the markets. So to be honest, I am quite happy after reading you can hire KPMG to do it for just £3600, that’ really great news.

    My question is: I have pay VAT from those 300k to German government. I assume Amazon pays also VAT from those 75K which gets form us, right? Can I lower my VAT returns to Germany by those 75k paid by Amazon?
    So instead of paying VAT from 300k I would pay VAT only from 225K? I hope I explain my self in the way you can understand that.

    Thank you very much for your answer.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Jiri,

      Thanks for your comment.

      I’m sorry but I am not really in a position to give advice on VAT as it’s a VERY complex and detailed topic, especially if multiple countries are involved. You do need to speak with a tax/VAT consultant about this.

      But as for the VAT registrations and VAT returns for Amazon purposes – you can get it done for just 400 EUR per year, for each country using Amazon’s VAT service:

      https://services.amazon.co.uk/services/vat-services-on-amazon/faq.html

      So much cheaper than 18k per year 🙂

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  35. Worth noting that Amazon is increasing FBA fees from April 26. The difference in shipping from UK to EU vs. locally is significant e.g. £2.57 per unit for our small parcel.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Yes, that’s correct David.

  36. Hi Andrew,

    I have a VAT registration because I used to sell on Amazon FBA in UK couple years ago, I do not sell on Amazon UK for the last 2 years. I still have VAT registration and filing 0 returns.

    I sell only on Amazon US through FBA program. Amazon has export program and will ship my items to customers in UK if I sign up for export program. (this is not global selling, just an export option). Do I need to charge VAT for goods shipped to UK if I use Amazon export program in US? My goods are in US only.

    Thank you

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Dan,

      Yes, you will need to charge VAT on such UK sales if stock is moved to the UK warehouse.

      Andrew

      1. Thank you for your reply. My stock is never moved to UK warehouse. It ships from US directly to customers in UK and Amazon is charging for import duties. Do I need to charge VAT?

      2. Andrew Minalto

        In that case – no.

      3. I realise this is a little bit old but if he’s still VAT registered in the UK then I’m relatively sure that he would have to charge VAT on any UK sales.

  37. This is completely inaccurate. You do not need to register for VAT in every country you have stock in. You need to register for VAT when your threshold of sales reaches that of the country that you are selling in before registration. For example in Germany, it’s when you sell €17,500 per year. €82,000 in France, Italy €60,000 all this information is quite easily available online, I don’t know why you are telling people they all have to be VAT registered in every EU country they sell in.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Matt,

      I’m sorry, you’re not right.

      You DO have to register in every EU country you have stock in, from day one. So if you use European Amazon warehouses and send stock to those countries, you have to register in those countries for VAT from day one.

      IF you don’t send stock to those countries but simply sell over distance, from your location/warehouse, then you DON’T have to register for VAT in those countries until you reach those distance selling thresholds you’re mentioning.

      I know this is 100% accurate information.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

      1. Hi Andrew.

        Could you please refer me to a link to that law?

        I’m already VAT registered for all 5 main countries for Amazon Europe because I already reached all sales thresholds, but I’m thinking on using Poland and Czech Republic as Germany’s secondary warehouses and I want to be very sure I need to register on both countries too, so I would really appreciate direct and clean information about it.

        Also, it sounds strange that just 2 weeks ago Amazon published a note in Seller central regarding the need of registering in UK due to the new position of this country in the EU, but just UK. So Amazon would be suggesting that there is no need to do the same for Spain, Germany, France or Italy.

        Thanks in advance.

      2. Andrew Minalto

        Hi Rafa,

        I can assure you that it is correct information and yes, you do need to register in Poland and Czech Republic too, if you plan on using FBA there.

        As for Amazon now pushing the UK VAT registrations – it’s LONG DUE!!! HMRC has been in talks with Amazon for a long time now and finally they have come to agreement that Amazon will actually undertake the VAT registration number vetting part and sort this mess out.

        It’s NOT a new law or rule!!! This has been in law for years now, just not many sellers are following it. Amazon will now police this in the UK and most likely in the EU too very shortly.

        Andrew

  38. Hi Andrew,
    Thanks for the article. I am a sole trader, only selling in UK, using Professional seller account and not registered for VAT as not doing level of business to the £83k threshold. But I am being charged VAT on FBA, seller and product ad fees – should I be?

    If yes, then surely there is are advantages of being VAT registered for people just starting out as they would be able to claim the VAT back on these? Haven’t done the maths yet when factoring the VAT returns on sales to HMRC.

    Many thanks,
    Tom

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Tom,

      That’s correct, yes.

      No, there’s no advantage of being VAT registered in your position – yes, you won’t pay VAT on Amazon fees BUT you will have to charge VAT on your items – basically this means increasing your prices by 20% or taking smaller profits (in simplified words).

      So do not register for VAT if you sell only in the UK until you reach the threshold.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

      1. Realistically, you only have to account for an additional 20% on what would be your profit margin, you don’t have to increase your selling price by 20%. Still sound advice not registering before necessary and you can claim VAT back for a period before registration, can’t remember how long but we had a nice cheque from them when we registered.

      2. Thanks for the reply Andrew – that is what I thought but Amazon’s VAT knowledge centre page says Businesses need to register even if goods are stored in the UK? Also import VAT paid at the time goods are imported into the EU can also be claimed back? Does this change anything / make being registered more viable?

        https://services.amazon.co.uk/services/fulfilment-by-amazon/vat-resources.html

        Thanks
        Tom

      3. Andrew Minalto

        No, it does not change it – you would STILL be paying more in taxes/loses out, compared to situation when you’re not VAT registered.

        Please re-read that Amazon page more carefully:

        You need to register for VAT in the UK if:
        You store goods in the UK; and
        You sell them to consumers based in the UK; and
        Your sales exceed the UK domestic VAT threshold of £85,000.

        There’s AND after first 2 points. So you need to register for VAT in the UK, if you’re based in the UK ONLY if all 3 THINGS matches.

        Hope this helps Tom! 🙂

        Thanks,
        Andrew

      4. Many thanks Andrew! Very helpful.

      5. Andrew Minalto

        You’re welcome Tom!

  39. Hi Andrew,
    Congrats for your very informative article!

    I’m wondering about the opposite though.
    Is there a way to avoid paying VAT on Amazon Europe?

    Can you please give me your views on the following scenarios?
    All scenarios suppose Seller Fulfilled orders, cause FBA involves VAT straightaway

    1. A UK company registers on Amazon UK and sells (no FBA) there. Does it have a 85,000 VAT exemption?

    2. A USA company registers on Amazon UK and sells (no FBA) there. Does it have a 85,000 VAT exemption?

    3. A German company registers on Amazon Germany and sells (no FBA) there. Does it have a 100,000 VAT exemption?

    4. A USA company registers on Amazon Germany and sells (no FBA) in Germany and UK. Does it have a German 100,000 VAT exemption or a UK 85,000 VAT exemption?

    Thanks in advance!

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi David,

      If you don’t use FBA and don’t send physical stock to those countries, you don’t have to register for VAT in those countries UNTIL you hit those distance selling thresholds.

      The Pan-European program is all about moving stock to various locations in Europe which instantly requires VAT registration from day one in those countries where stock will be held.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  40. Hello,
    I have the following questions.
    If i sell a product in Germany 19% Vat
    The selling price is 22,68 € the fee is 5,76 € (3,40 € referral fee + 2,36 € fulfilment fees).
    The vat is calclulated on the 22,68 € and i have to pay is 3,62 € or
    22,68 €-5,76 €= 16,92 € so the vat to be paid is 2,70 €.
    What is the correct way?
    Also when amazon sales a product clearly writes inclusive of German Vat but when an fba seller sales the same product it says nothing about Vat.
    I am a little confused on how to calculate the vat because after paying the vat and the amazon fees there is no profit for the seller except there are using other ways to avoid paying the vat and maybe their price is without Vat.
    Thanks for your time.

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Chris,

      The VAT is calculated on the item’s price – it has nothing to do with Amazon fees. So the VAT is calculated on the whole 22.68 € in your example.

      As for Amazon showing VAT and FBA sellers not – if FBA seller is NOT VAT registered, then no VAT will be shown on invoice. Only VAT registered sellers will charge VAT and show that in invoices. Amazon is obviously VAT registered so they will show VAT on all invoices.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  41. You say “Also, don’t forget that you can sell on regional sites and fulfil orders from Amazon UK too, without registering for VAT etc. in those other countries.” We currently sell on Amazon.com and Amazon.co.uk. How do we expand to the regional sites and fulfill from Amazon UK? It is not obvious to me.
    If my company expanded from UK only to all five EU Amazon sites, we estimate over `one million Euro yearly sales — is that “massive?”

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Tom,

      Thanks for your comment.

      It is called European Fulfilment Network (EFN) and with this you can set-up listings on regional Amazon sites but use Amazon UK FBA for fulfilling orders.

      Please read more about how it works on Amazon’s help pages.

      One million EUR in sales a year on Amazon is a good business, sure! Depends of course how big your overall company is etc. and what’s good for one, may seem like change for others 🙂

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  42. Hi Andrew,
    I’m an USA seller that was selling goods on Amazon UK. Amazon forced me to register for U.K. VAT, which I did then HMRC states to contact me to pay for VAT back tax. The amount asking is more than the profit I made and more than what I can afford. I have stop all sales into the U.K. now, but what will happen if I Ignord their paymenr request?

    Thx
    Dave

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Dave,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Yes, it could be that you owe more VAT than you have made profit, especially if you spent aggressively on paid ads. This is why you always need to monitor your sales and VAT amounts so you don’t get a big surprise after 3 months when you need to do your VAT return.

      I wouldn’t recommend you ignoring that payment request from HMRC as it can get you in serious trouble. Communicate with HMRC and try to set-up a payment plan or something so you can pay it off in instalments.

      Andrew

  43. conrad mc gilloway

    Hi does anyone know a person or company can translate and list on AMAZON IT,DE,FR,SP

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Conrad,

      You can get translations done on sites like Fiverr.com or Upwork.com

      Thanks
      Andrew

  44. Sean Parker

    Hi Andrew

    As there is no Amazon marketplace in Poland or the Czech Republic, and assuming no sales are made in those countires by any other means, would the returns made in Poland and the Czech Republic be nil returns?
    My assumption is that this would be the case, and that the only reporting required would be sales on the relevant countries VAT return as and when sales are made.
    I have received advice from a Czech agent that I am not sure about: “the VAT returns would not be zero but the company must declare transfers between the FBA warehouses and the distance sales to other EU states (even if these sales were taxable in other EU states)”.
    What is your take on this advice?

    Thank you
    Sean

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Sean,

      Thanks for your comment.

      Sorry, why do you need to do VAT returns in Poland and theCzech Republic?

      You won’t be storing goods there, so you don’t need to register for VAT there.

      You would only need to register for VAT in those countries IF your sales to those countries EXCEEDS their local VAT registration threshold.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

      1. Sean Parker

        Hi Andrew

        We will be registering for PAN FBA. As inventory will be stored in fulfilment centres in Czech and Poland, we will be required to register for Vat in those countries. The distance selling rules will no longer apply.
        Do you know how we must report inventory movements on our UK return? And if sales are made in an EU country, where the inventory is used from a fulfilment centre in say Poland… would the sale be recorded on a Polish vat return?

        Sean

      2. Andrew Minalto

        In that case, yes, you need to register for VAT in countries inventory be stored.

        YES, sale from a Poland location will be recorder on Polish VAT return. I won’t be able to help with technicalities of it though as I completely outsource my accounting and I know that my accountant works VERY hard to manage all the ins and outs of Amazon platform, VAT returns etc., so very un-likely you’ll be able to do it on your own…

        Andrew

  45. Thank you for the great article Andrew. I myself am looking at registering for VAT in Germany and France as these are two of my biggest markets outside of the UK and being Prime eligible in these countries would only be beneficial to my sales.

    I received this link recently: http://go.amazonsellerservices.com/Pan-EU-VAT-Promotion-October2017-EN-AS?ld=NSGoogle .

    “We are excited to offer you our current VAT services promotion.

    Benefit of 1-year of VAT Services on Amazon including VAT registration and filing for up to 6 countries with VAT Services on Amazon at no additional cost to you (a value of up to €3000) if you join Amazon’s Pan-European FBA Programme. This Promotion is available only for European Sellers1.”

    I was wondering what your thoughts are regarding this as they are making it very attractive to go through their Pan European program. I was also wondering if it possible to choose which of these markets I sell in to keep control of it.

    Best regards

    Simon

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Simon,

      Thanks for your comment.

      No, with Amazon’s Pan-European FBA Programme you can’t pick which countries it will apply to – you automatically get enrolled in all 5 EU Marketplaces.

      As for the VAT calculation service – from what I have seen, it is the best/cheapest option available for Amazon sellers but don’t really know how good the actual service is as I haven’t used it.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  46. Is it the same situation if you send stock to US fulfilment centres from the UK. Do I need to register for American VAT etc or is there a threshold in place?

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Nicholas,

      No, there’s no VAT in the USA but there’s Sales Tax.

      It is a very complex topic I will cover in future in a separate blog post.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  47. Hello Andrew
    Thanks for the great article, as usual an useful insight of online selling.
    With reference to Amazon and how VAT is being charged, I’m now very confused.
    I’m watching Jungle Scout sessions on how to set up an Amazon business in Europe. In their 6th session they covered VAT etc.. But they stated that it is compulsory to register for VAT in UK if you are storing your goods in an Amazon warehouse in UK, regardless of the turnover/threshold.
    In your previous posts you advised to wait to register for VAT until a seller reaches the threshold… Has this changed recently?
    Thank you for your assistance

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Ale,

      Thanks for your question.

      In my post/advice on NOT to register for VAT – I was targeting people who live in the UK – they DO NOT have to register for VAT for Amazon business either, for stock they hold in Amazon UK warehouse.

      For anyone outside UK, if they want to use Amazon FBA UK – they have to register for VAT from day one.

      Hope this explains it and let me know if you have any further questions.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  48. Hi Andrew,

    I have a business on Amazon and use FBA warehouses in UK. I am registered as a self employed here in UK but i haven’t registered for VAT yet. Still below the VAT threshold in UK. Do i need to register for VAT if i store my inventory in the UK as long as i live and have a company in UK?
    Thank you very much for your time,

    Best regards,
    Vali

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Vali,

      No, if you’re based in the Uk and store your goods in the UK, you don’t have to register for VAT IF you’re below threshold.

      Thanks,
      Andrew

  49. Jeffrey Lewis

    Hi Andrew

    Great Article.

    I am selling on the Amzon UK and the other 4 EU Amazon marketplaces.

    The IT and ES thresholds are 35,000 Euros Net of VAT but I am well below that.
    The DE threshold is 100,000 Euros Net of VAT and I am well below that too.

    However my French sales will be around 40,000 Euros by the end of this year, 2017. So I need to Register with the French Tax authorities.

    A pain no doubt, but would Amazon then move some of my UK stored stock to France so that French buyers could enjoy Amazon Prime or would Amazon only allow stock to be stored outside the UK if you register for VAT in all European Amazon Marketplaces?

    Thanks
    Best regards
    Jeff

    1. fred smith

      It is possible and easy.
      Settings,
      Fullfilment by amazon,
      Cross-Border Fulfilment Settings,
      Allow inventory to be stored in other countries:
      France, United Kingdom
      save
      now your inventory will be stored in those 2 countries.
      You can also send inventory to France now.
      ps. You do NOT need to enable Pan-European FBA

      1. Andrew Minalto

        Yes, but you do need to register for VAT in each country your inventory is being stored.

    2. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Jeff,

      I don’t know to be honest – I haven’t expanded to PAN-Europe program myself as right now concentrating on the UK and USA markets.

      They probably could do that, it would make sense but I have no personal experience with this.

      Andrew

  50. Hi Andrew,

    Any tips for a newbie looking to start selling on Amazon and finding a product to sell on Amazon?

    Many thanks

    Charlotte

    1. Andrew Minalto

      Hi Charlotte,

      I will be doing a post about Amazon product research next month, so stay tuned for that.

      Andrew

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